Descendants of William HUDSON (to contribute information, please email Helen@HelensFamilyTrees.com)

Third Generation


6. Margaret HUDSON (Edward , William ) was born about 7 Oct 1787 in probably Lackabeg, Abbeydorney, Co. Kerry. She was christened on 9 Oct 1787 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. She died in probably after 10 May 1831.

Margaret married James TIDMARSH on 10 Aug 1822. James was born about 1790. He died on 10 May 1831. He was buried in probably White Church Cemetery, Milltown, Co. Kerry.

James, who is believed to have lived in Ballymullen, Tralee, Co. Kerry, was a cloth merchant.

They had the following children.

  15 M i
John TIDMARSH was born on 29 Dec 1823 in probably Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was christened on 30 Jan 1824 in Tralee, Co. Kerry.
  16 M ii
Francis TIDMARSH was born in Oct 1826 in Ballymullen, Rathass, Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was christened on 6 Oct 1826 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He died after 18 Apr 1871.
  17 M iii
Edward TIDMARSH was born about Dec 1830 in probably Rathass, Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was christened on 1 Jan 1831 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He died after 18 Apr 1871.

11. Edward HUDSON (Edward , William ) was born about 17 Dec 1801 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was christened on 17 Dec 1801 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He died on 30 Jul 1871 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was buried on 1 Aug 1871 in Tralee, Co. Kerry.

Edward was the sole surviving son of Edward and Honora's nine children (six daughters and three sons). Edward junior was a "landed proprietor" (according to the marriage certificate of his son Robert), is listed in Griffith's Valuation of 1851 as landlord of some 440 acres in Kilbaha in the parish of Newtownsandes (now called Moyvane) owned by the Sandes family. The property comprised the entire area of the townland of Kilbaha North (there is also a Kilbaha South, Kilbaha West and Kilbaha Middle). My own Hudson family, from Kilbaha in Moyvane in Co. Kerry, is connected to Edward's family but the exact relationship has not yet been established.

Edward renewed the Kilbaha lease, previously held by his father, on 1 October 1839) and a Lease in Perpuity was granted to Edward on 7 April 1859. It was on a parcel of this land that my ancestor Richard Hudson settled as a tenant around the late 1840s. In 1915 a number of Richard's descendants purchased their holdings at a favourable price.

Edward lived in Gortmore House (now the Bon Secours Hospital) on Strand St. in Tralee (where my great-great-grandmother Johanna Hudson was married in 1847). According to Griffith's Valuation, Edward rented 11 acres and No. 25 Strand St. from Thomas de Moleyns, and four acres and No. 27 Strand St. from Sir Edward Denny); presumably Gortmore House stood on one of these properties.

There was another Edward Hudson in Kerry at the time who married an Elizabeth Kivell and had a daughter named Emma Jane who was born in the Tarbert area of Co. Kerry on 28 October 1871. Could this Edward be related to our Hudson family?

It is believed that many of the older generations of the Tralee Hudsons, who were Protestant, are buried in Ballyseedy Churchyard just outside Tralee.

Further information on Edward and his descendants is available in 'The Hudsons of Tralee' one of a number of volumes written by William Hudson from Florida who was a descendant of the Kilbaha Hudsons (I have yet to take a look at this work). Beginning in 1956, William studied his Hudson family history right up to his death in 2008 and donated copies of the results of his research to the public libraries in Tralee and Listowel.

Edward married Sarah HICKSON, daughter of Richard HICKSON, on 15 Aug 1838 in Blennerville, Tralee, Co. Kerry. Sarah died on 8 Mar 1845 in Tralee, Co. Kerry.

Sarah was an only daughter.

They had the following children.

  18 M i
Edward HUDSON was born on 6 Jun 1839 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was christened on 23 Jun 1839 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He died on 19 Mar 1911 in Gortmore House, Strand St., Tralee, Co. Kerry.

Edward, who never married, lived in Gortmore House (now the Bon Secours Hospital) in Tralee. He is described as a farmer in the 1901 census. He had inherited the family's land in Kilbaha (456 acres, apparently) which was rented to Hudson relatives and used to visit Kilbaha once or twice a year "to see about the bogs". An amicable relationship apparently always existed between Edward's family and the tenants.

Edward suffered from mental infirmity in the last 10 years or so of his life and is reported to have shot and wounded two boys in Tralee who climbed over the wall into his property in Tralee in 1901. Owing to his condition his brother Robert took over the management of the Kilbaha land around this time. Edward died of heart failure aged 71.
  19 M ii
Richard HUDSON was born on 10 Mar 1841 in probably Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was christened on 25 Mar 1841 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. He died in Jan 1845 in probably Tralee, Co. Kerry.

Richard died of croup aged only four.
+ 20 M iii Robert HUDSON was born in 1842. He died on 18 Feb 1917.
  21 M iv
William HUDSON was born about 30 Jul 1843 in probably Tralee, Co. Kerry. He was christened on 30 Jul 1843 in Tralee, Co. Kerry.
  22 F v
Honora HUDSON was born in probably Tralee, Co. Kerry. She died.

We are not entirely certain that the above daughter of Edward and Sarah was actually named Honora but it is believed she lived in Limerick.
  23 F vi
Jane Eliza HUDSON was born in Jan 1845 in probably Tralee, Co. Kerry. She was christened on 12 Jan 1845 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. She died in Dec 1845 in Tralee, Co. Kerry. She was buried on 21 Dec 1845 in Tralee, Co. Kerry.

An Eliza Jane Hudson of Tralee, who died at the age of 14 months, was buried in Tralee in December 1845. This is likely to have been our Jane Eliza above even though Jane Eliza would only have been about 11 months in December 1845.
  24 F vii
'unknown' HUDSON (female) was born in probably Tralee, Co. Kerry. She died.

It is known that Robert, a brother of 'unknown' above had two sisters, including 'unknown' above, who lived in Limerick. Robert's son Edward told Hudson family researcher Bill Hudson in 1960 that he did not have much information on the sisters as his father had not been in regular contact with them.

14. Richard HUDSON (William? , William ) was born in abt 1780s in north Kerry. He died before 1853 in probably Kilbaha, Moyvane, Co. Kerry. He was buried in probably Murhur Cemetery, Moyvane, Co. Kerry.

We do not know where exactly Richard was born but we are presuming that it was in north Kerry. We do know he was baptised into the Protestant faith although he converted to Catholicism and his children were raised as Catholics owing to his marriage to a Catholic. We also know Richard was related to Edward Hudson of Strand St. in Tralee, Co. Kerry who owned over 400 acres of land in Kilbaha, Newtownsandes (now called Moyvane), Co. Kerry. Richard and his wife, Margaret, would eventually settle in Kilbaha where descendants of theirs still live.

Although we do not have an exact date of death for Richard we do know he had died before his youngest child, Patrick, emigrated to the United States in 1853.

Richard married Margaret FINUCANE, daughter of John? FINUCANE and 'UNKNOWN', about 1815 in north Kerry. Margaret was born about 1793 in possibly Ardmore, Carhoonakineely, Tarbert, Co. Kerry. She died on 20 May 1877 in Kilbaha, Moyvane, Co. Kerry. She was buried in probably Murhur Cemetery, Moyvane, Co. Kerry.

It is possible that Margaret was a daughter of John Finucane and Kate Lynch of Ardmore, Carhoonakineely, Tarbert. One source tells us she was but another says she was a daughter of a John Finucane of Ardmore who had sons named John - who emigrated to the United States - and possibly Frank. Because the John who married Kate Lynch had a son named John who did not emigrate, it seems there may have been two John Finucanes living in Ardmore around the same time resulting in the uncertainty regarding Margaret's parents.    

Margaret and her husband, Richard Hudson, seemed to have moved around quite a bit after their marriage. It is probable that they lived in Duagh around 1830 because their daughter, Johanna, was baptised there in that year. It is also believed that they lived for a time in Ballyeagh (sometimes spelled Ballyeigh), near Ballybunion, and at another point they seem to have moved to Tralee where it is thought that their youngest child, Patrick Robert, was born in 1838 (although there is no documentation to support this) and where it is known that their daughter, Johanna, was married in 1847. By 1850 it seems they had left Tralee and settled in Kilbaha where thry had connections through Edward Hudson, a relative of Richard's from Tralee who owned more than 400 acres in Kilbaha at the time. Information on the Hudson family of Tralee is available in William Hudson's volume "The Hudsons of Tralee", a copy of which may be studied in Tralee and Listowel libraries. Unfortunately, when I visited Tralee library in 2005, I ran out of time before I had a chance to take a look at this particular book.

An indication of what life was like for Margaret and Richard back then comes from stories told by family members. For example, Richard and Margaret's son, William, once told a relative that he remembered that while a mass was being said at the house when he was a child, people were put on guard duty outside to see to it that no British police would bother those inside. He also remembered there being firearms in the house at the time. And William's brother, Patrick, told his own son, William, that his (Patrick's) mother, Margaret Hudson, was often "beaten up" by local Whiteboys, agrarian agitators who operated in Ireland at the time.

It is thought that Richard and Margaret may have had a second daughter, but no further information is available. Of their eight children that we do know of, six emigrated to the United States, with only their eldest son, who took over the family farm in Kilbaha, and their only daughter (that we know of) marrying a Kilbaha man and remaining in Kilbaha.

In case there is a connection, here's some information on a Finucane family with possible Duagh connections. It has been provided by Patricia Finucan (sic) of Pennsylvania (her family lost the 'e' in the surname after their arrival in the United Staes). Patricia's ancestor Thomas Finucane was born January or February of 1848 in Ireland and emigrated to the U.S. before 1870.  He had at least two  cousins who lived in the U.S., Daniel McCarthy and Maria McCarthy; and his death record states that his parents were John and either Ellen or Ann. Thomas was buried with members of the family of Daniel Dillon from Duagh. Patricia believes Thomas and Daniel Dillon were related as Thomas and his cousin Daniel McCarthy were living with Daniel Dillon's family at the time of the 1870 U.S. census.

They had the following children.

+ 25 M i Edward (Edmond) HUDSON was born about 9 Mar 1816. He died on 10 Oct 1883.
+ 26 M ii William HUDSON was born about 1819. He died on 2 Jul 1893.
+ 27 F iii Johanna HUDSON was born about 24 Nov 1820. She died on 1 Dec 1897.
+ 28 M iv Richard HUDSON was born on 15 Aug 1827. He died on 14 Sep 1902.
+ 29 M v Jeremiah HUDSON was born about 1830. He died on 20 May 1905.
+ 30 M vi Francis (Frank) John HUDSON was born about 1831. He died on 9 Nov 1898.
  31 M vii
John HUDSON was born in Aug 1832 in probably Duagh, Co. Kerry. He died on 20 Apr 1907 in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. He was buried in Riverside Cemetery, Oshkosh.

John emigrated to the United States in 1852, living initially in Philadelphia before settling in Oshkosh in 1857. It is known that he worked as a coachman for a Dr. Eaton in Oshkosh and for the North Side Hospital, also in Oshkosh. Apparently John visited Ireland 11 times after moving to the States, his last visit being in 1877 during his his mother's final illness (he is listed as the informant on her death certificate). His grandniece Esther Peil (née Hudson) of Racine, Wisconsin, remembered John as a tall thin man with a beard.

John never married. He died in the Oshkosh poor house where it appears he had been living for a number of years (he was listed as a pauper there in the 1900 census).
+ 32 M viii Patrick Robert HUDSON was born on 13 May 1838. He died on 15 Dec 1914.

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